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Temazepam is approved for the short-term treatment of insomnia. Very interesting. It is the 3-hydroxy analogue of diazepam, and one of diazepam's primary active metabolites. In addition, temazepam has anxiolytic (antianxiety), anticonvulsant, and skeletal muscle relaxant properties. Wiki confirms my info: Temazepam (brand names Restoril and Normison, among others) is an intermediate-acting 3-hydroxy hypnotic of the benzodiazepine class of psychoactive drugs. --So benzo class, but not exactly the same -- I see it used for sleep aid not anti anxiety, but that is IME maybe not universal. Anything can lose effectiveness if used repeatedly -- if I use Temazepam I will alternate it with Zquil or Tylenol PM/benadryl to avoid that.

So you know if it works and how it works on you. So Ambien, or Zolpidem (generic Ambien), when you try something new like this, first test it at home. Hydrocodone, (Vicodin, Norco) 10mg dose, works good for me. regards - tom.

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I usually try to go to bed earlier the week before leaving--trying to get my internal clock synchronized with European time. Sometimes I'll sleep, and sometimes I'll just stay awake. The med really zonks you the first hour or so, and it wears off quickly. Many world travelers swear by using Ambien on overseas flights after the meal is completed. It doesn't leave you groggy after the med wears off. The alternatives are mentioned above--Tylenol PM or Benadryl.

If Ambien worked for you before, why not get your own scrip from a Doctor? I don't like Benadryl on airplanes, I get dehydrated enough without that, although if I am desperate I might take one or two since I carry it anyway for allergies. Going from east to west (CA to NZ) I've found is much easier than going to Europe, usually you arrive in the morning and I can stay awake til dinner time and then catch up pretty quickly. Just try to be caught up on your sleep before you leave, bring a comfy pillow and slippers in the carry on, put on the headphones, and get a window seat. Catnaps are good too. Same reason I won't have more than one drink with a meal.

And maybe try again another night as well. Anyone thinking about taking pills for sleeping on plane be it Ambien or Melatonin or Benydryl should try it out at home for a night and see what happens. Don't want any surprises at 30,000+ feet.

Generally the less medication the better in this area, IMO. That is a bummer about the Tylenol PM suze.

as an airline pilot, trust me the last thing u want to do is take a tablet to "knock yoursel out" cold. I don't mean to sound smart or anything but if your out cold and the aircraft needs to be evacuated, ur putting the lives of the flight crew AMD other passengers at risk as the will be the ones who have to stay behind to ensure you get off safely, also along with that I know of several pilots who will do what ever they can (myself) included to prevent passengers taking "knock-out" drugs. before you consider this stupid idea think of the peoples lives you are risking just to kill the boredom of a long flight.

It is believed that many of the instances of truly outrageous behavior on planes has been related to Ambien use. There is the danger that you will do things/respond to stimuli in your sleep and get yourself into trouble on the plane. If you haven't had problems with this before, you are a bit safer, but some people even after using Ambien on and off for years have this experience. Be aware that many people have problems with Ambien. I don't sleep well on planes. I nap if I can, but I do use melationin and behavioral approaches to get myself quickly into the new time zone. It happens to people all the time at home - sleep walking, eating, sleep driving (now that is one that has gotten some high profile people into trouble).

We needed the paramedics to get the guy off the plane in a stretcher!. And then there are the folks that I have had on my flights that we seriously could not wake up when they took Ambien after we either landed or in one case when we had a mechanical and had to go back to the gate.

Case reports suggest that people with epilepsy, and patients taking warfarin may come to harm from melatonin. Melatonin MAIN RESULTS: : Nine of the ten trials found that melatonin, taken close to the target bedtime at the destination (10pm to midnight), decreased jet-lag from flights crossing five or more time zones. Based on the review, the number needed to treat (NNT) is 2. REVIEWER'S CONCLUSIONS: : Melatonin is remarkably effective in preventing or reducing jet-lag, and occasional short-term use appears to be safe. The timing of the melatonin dose is important: if it is taken at the wrong time, early in the day, it is liable to cause sleepiness and delay adaptation to local time. Doses above 5mg appear to be no more effective. It should be recommended to adult travellers flying across five or more time zones, particularly in an easterly direction, and especially if they have experienced jet-lag on previous journeys. Daily doses of melatonin between 0.5 and 5mg are similarly effective, except that people fall asleep faster and sleep better after 5mg than 0.5mg. The incidence of other side effects is low. The relative ineffectiveness of 2mg slow-release melatonin suggests that a short-lived higher peak concentration of melatonin works better. The benefit is likely to be greater the more time zones are crossed, and less for westward flights.

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And for me the over the counter ones like Tylenol PM have the opposite effect (wakes me up, doesn't put me to sleep). And agree, would not use the pharmaceutical every night (never more than 2x/wk). My reasoning is that I believe using the 3 different drugs will mess up being able to fall asleep and stay asleep naturally, which I assume is the goal for most people. I understand.

That's a dangerous combination. If you're going this artificial route, no alcohol. To the OP: If you look on your friend's Ambien bottle, there will be a label that says: "Caution: Federal law prohibits the transfer of this drug to any person other than the patient for whom it was prescribed." At least get your own prescription.

I should mention, the 4 hours is on a trans-Atlantic flight, a longer nap on a trans-Pacific. It works very well, been doing it for decades.

Stilnox & Ambien are the same. Don't take it unless you have a full eight hours to sleep. Just different brand names for Zolpidem. I can't take the CR, it makes me feel really weird and sort of hungover, whereas the regular Ambien works very well for me. gigiib - Just be aware that Ambien CR might leave you feeling much more groggy than regular Ambien.

PCPs seem more comfortable prescribing it than many other sleep meds. Restoril is a fairly "easy" sleep med IME; not the rapid drop off as with Ambien but doesn't seem to have the problems associated with it. It's available in generic (temazepam).

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People who can sleep on planes, or who aren't sensitive to time change and jet lag, don't understand how horrible it can be. If Ambien worked well for you in the past, I would get your own prescription. You only need to ask for a couple pills (I would use it the first night after I arrived to help me get adjusted to local time). My doctor won't prescribe Ambien, and I am more comfortable using Xanax, as I have mentioned above.

Saw him today and confirmed. YMMV. Suze the MD endorsed alternating (it's not mixing) -- noting, as above, it is less likely to encourage habituation of either one.

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<Hydrocodone, (Vicodin, Norco) 10mg dose, works good for me.> Well of course taking a narcotic might just make you drowsy!!

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as an airline pilot, trust me the last thing u want to do is take a tablet to "knock yoursel out" cold. I don't mean to sound smart or anything but if your out cold and the aircraft needs to be evacuated, ur putting the lives of the flight crew AMD other passengers at risk as the will be the ones who have to stay behind to ensure you get off safely, also along with that I know of several pilots who will do what ever they can (myself) included to prevent passengers taking "knock-out" drugs. before you consider this stupid idea think of the peoples lives you are risking just to kill the boredom of a long flight.

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I asked a friend who is a frequent traveler what her sleep aid of choice is and she said 1/4 trazidone. $30+ for 10 pills.yikes!. I need to follow up with her to learn the mg of each pill. I asked my doctor for a few Ambien for my upcoming trip and he prescribed restoril instead.

Africa this year from California, so 14-15 hours all in one shot, yuck. OTC sleeping stuff. Plus, we don't sleep easily sitting up in a plane seat so I need a real knock-out punch. Once I tried benadryl and got the twitchies instead of the sleepies, it was horrible!! We will be doing Australia and S. The few times I have taken something like unisom, I hate the groggy feeling when you wake up. I would like some fresh opinions on the various knock out drops that you take for a long flight. In the past we have borrowed some ambien from a friend, but I don't know if I want to do that anymore so I would like some opinions on that stuff vs.

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I go across 6-9 hrs time zones several times per year, and sometimes it works easier or without jet lag, sometimes there is a jet lag - even when you fly in business class and can lie down to sleep. Much more tastier and with less side effects than drugs. If you don't travel well across time zones, it is more sustainable to start slow on your first day in the foreign time zone. On a night flight you can try a glass of red wine or two. Caveat: Neither stoned by drugs nor alcohol you should pick up a rental car upon arrival!.

I find wine "helpful" too, just not for sleep.

I generally get 5 hours of sleep on flight from CA to Europe which is enough to get me going until the next day. Put my headphones on some sweet quiet music, nice blanket, eye shades, take off my shoes and a great neck pillow and I am out. WOW, I guess I am blessed as I have no problem sleeping on planes. I do take NO JET LAG every 2 ours when I am awake and I find that it helps me a lot with headaches and that jet lag feeling.

kyburbon, the problems with Ambien have been well-documented long before Ambien CR was introduced. If you have taken it with no problems, good for you, but it is not the experience of everyone. The drug companies have not wanted to publicize the problems with Ambien, but the reports have been so numerous they have had to admit to them. "There are millions taking it with no problems." So the drug companies would like us to believe. BTW, melatonin is not appropriate for use on an airplane. It's method of action is to "reset" the body clock, and needs to be done with exposure to sunlight in the early morning. Also, having taken it without problems don't make you immune to developing these problems.

I would never mix drugs like that (some prescription them some OTC) even on different days. Yes, anything with that -pam at the end is in that same family of drugs.

One of my children reacts compley opposite to several drugs ( like suze apparently) this is a known effect for some people, which is why should always try a medication before a flight.

This post specifically asked about "sleeping pills for long haul flights". I don't drive in Europe, but thanks for your concern.

I'd NEVER fall asleep on that. Be careful with benedryl if you have never used it before. On some people (me for one) it has the opposite effect and makes me "wired".

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You aren't "knocked out" and would be able to deal with an emergency should it arise. Wow this is an oldie popped up again. Many people above talked about using an anti-anxiety (in the -pan family).

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I think the captain's point is well taken, however. Just to share my experience over a number of flights, at home, Ambien gives me rapid (15') sleep: 5 mg-4 hours, 10mg, 5-6 hours. But the times I have used it on a long 10+ hr) flight, if I do fall asleep at all I actually wake to alertness quite fast and am clear and not at all groggy. I might get 2 hours if I am really lucky. Rare use. Maybe because I am kind of hyper-alert on plane anyway.

I usually get about 4 good hours sleep. It relaxes rather that knocking one out. If I must, I can be wide awake and alert immediay but it does help me slip into a nice nap without feeling the slightest bit groggy when I wake up. I take a small dose diazepam (Valium). I'm not sure taking a sleeping pill is all that good an idea. And I don't worry about having to be alert in an emergency.

And personally I feel safer using a prescription from my doctor, on occasion, rather than self-prescribing OTCs anyways. annw~~ Not really, since I know it in advance, I don't use it. There are several OTC that have the opposite effect on me (anything benedryl).

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I don't take sleeping pills. You don't want knock out drops. These will relax you so maybe you can drop off to sleep easier, and makes time seem to pass more quickly. Something in an anti-anxiety works best in my experience. Like Valium, Xanax, Ativan, etc. But you can wake up if need be for any kind of inflight emergency or situation.

That makes the jet lag all that much more significant since you've been up 24-48 hours straight. Period. Some people cannot sleep on planes.

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You are not "stoned by drugs" at the end of a 9-10 hours flight to Europe from taking one Xanax at take-off. Wine is not helpful for immediate sleep because alcohol is initially a stimulant, only later a depressant.

You can also try melatonin to help you catch up when you arrive.

I find wine quite helpful. Others may prefer drugs. To each his/her own.

Another OTC medication that causes drowsiness in many people is anti-motion sickness medication. Benadryl is one of the ingredients in Unisom (the other is doxyalamine). Most (?all) OTC sleep aids are antihistamines, with Benadryl being present in the vast majority - Tylenol PM, Advil PM are the stated pain reliever plus Benadryl. So curious how you got the "twitchies" from Benadryl and not Unisom. Both are antihistamines. I don't think there exists anything safe, OTC or by prescription, that is going to knock you out for 14-15 hours and not have you feel terrible after. The active ingredient is meclizine and for some people works better, although I do not believe it is legal to market it as a sleep aid.

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First sleeping tablets doctor prescribed were Stilnox??????? I was just prescribed Temazepan. I read the warnings and possible side effects and never used them for the flight.

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So, I am looking for several hours of unconciousness during the long flights! Perhaps I will get a scrip for Ambien, that worked pretty well. To Joburg from LA, it's a morning 5 hour flight to Atlanta, a short layover, then a 15 hour evening flight to Joburg, that's a lot of being awake time. The nice thing is we get to Joburg at 5pm so we go straight to an aiport ho and shower and sleep. For the Australia trip, it's 14 hours overnight to Sydney, a 4 hour layover then a 5 hour flight to Darwin. Suze, yes, that's exactly my problem.

regards - tom. If taken daily, most people develop a toleranace for it and thus it becomes ineffective. Ambien, Zolpidem, works best on an empty stomach. Same thing for hydrocodone.

I am told to use it before the trip but never do and use it during and after the trip when I am back. One uncle died like that and I heard of a doctor who also died after a long flight. You can get blood clogging if you stay too long seated on a plane. I am like Justine. Btw not about sleeping pills but if you don't sleep or wake up take a stroll and do some exercise. Melatonin works for me - but more like 6 hours.

Just technically, you'll be DUI. So if you popped one Xanax upon departure, you'd still have half of drug at work when you picked up the car in Dublin or Paris. Which I don't find too smart after a red eye flight. If you had two small glass of wine or. Which is more or less the time you need to get across the Atlantic. Obviously not all semi-drugged people get into accidents once they picked up the rental car. The more serious answer would have been that Alprazolam has a a half-life (according to Wikipedia's eternal wisdom) of 11 hours. 5 alcohol, you'd be sober again upon arrival.

I recently used it on a 16.5 hour flight to Hong Kong and got 5-6 hours of sleep, no after effects. I take a 5mg, half the normal dose, of Ambien on long haul flights. If I fly east coast US to Europe I don't take anything as the flight isn't long enough and I worry about being asleep too long.

Do you know more about it?. Annw, your description of the effect of Restoril (temazepam) and the "pam" in the name leads to me suspect it's in the same family of compounds as diazepam (Valium) which I use, mentioned at the very top of the thread, a muscle relaxer rather than a sleeping pill, despite the "rest" in the brand name.

No matter what I take, after 9 hours I'm afraid I'm going to die. After 10 hours I which I would!! regards - tom.

I take the old Ambien which is short acting (4 hours). It lasts 8 hours. You have to ask the doc to write that kind specifically as they will normally prescribe the newer long-acting time release version (Ambien CR).

I would love to just conk out. and that's not separating the emergencies that are survivable ( so you want to be awake) to the ones that are not ( and I would want to sleep through that free fall or explosion thank you ). I would only take something for a long haul flight over 9-10 hours. but haven't bothered to ask my doctor for anything stronger. My doctor said Melatonin was a safe "sleeping pill " ( yes. we both know it is not technically a sleeping pill) for my kids. I have tons of trouble falling asleep on a plane. even on an Ativan. is likely one in 500, 000. The chances of your plane being in an emergency. ( I have a son with issues that made this something I had to look into for a long haul flight).

These days I do not take sleeping pills and although I don't sleep much on the flight, I still feel a lot better. I used to take sleeping pills on long flights and I always felt a lot more jet lagged the next day.

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